Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey.
[00:00:01] Speaker B: Hey.
[00:00:02] Speaker A: Welcome back to Spill the Tea, unfiltered.
How are you this week?
[00:00:08] Speaker B: I am good. How are you doing?
[00:00:10] Speaker A: You know, funny thing happened.
Somebody in Dick's family got a phone call, and they called me to. To laugh about it because they were like, this is hilarious. So.
And actually involves you in a way. Like, in a way. So.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: Okay, what did I do now?
[00:00:31] Speaker A: You didn't do anything, but it is funny. So, as everybody knows, Dick started dating Amber while him and I were still married. And I think in his mind, he truly did think that he was going to, like, leave me for you. And so he was setting up this path, Right?
So in early October, a new motorcycle showed up. He told me it was Jesse's, as we've told everybody. Like, he's told me it was Jesse's because he had a motorcycle with me in. In my name. Didn't we?
[00:00:58] Speaker B: Like, I don't remember for sure. You keep up better than me, but didn't we start dating in October?
[00:01:02] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:01:03] Speaker B: Oh, so he had just got the motorcycle.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: Oh, yes.
[00:01:07] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: So. And he told you it was his, right? Yeah, yeah. He told you it was his. He told me it was Jesse's because he was coming home to our house with a new motorcycle. And his way of explaining it was, it was Jesse got the new CVO and he was just out riding it to test it.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: So. Was purple his favorite color?
[00:01:22] Speaker A: No, purple is my favorite color. And everything that's on it I bought him. Except for his seat. But his seat, he got the purple stitching because it was my favorite, and his mom bought them that. But so he started. He. He was basically, what he's trying to do is hide, switching the footboards and the seat and all this stuff that I had bought him to the new motorcycle.
And I, like, caught. I was like, what are you doing? And he was like. He was like, oh, I. I sold these to Jesse. That's what he told me. He said he sold them to Jesse to make some money and because Jesse was just gonna let him ride that bike. And I was like, this makes no sense. And again, like, this is at the end when everything was, like, crashing. So, like, all his stories are crashing.
He.
What pisses me off is he obviously lied, said that it was Jesse's bike. I ended up getting a letter from an insurance company, and it was for a motorcycle, so he. He got an insurance on it.
[00:02:19] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: And. And I'm like, jesse's bike For Jesse's bike. And I'm like, this does not make sense. And mind you, this is before the split. Yeah, like, this is like the week before everything hit the fan.
So I think in his mind, what happened was he was hiding money from me. He was able to go to Harley. He was able to get a motorcycle somehow because he has horrible credit.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: But I'll just say, like, how do people really bad credit even get loans?
[00:02:44] Speaker A: I don't think. I think what he probably did was that he saved up enough money and hid it from me that he had a big down payment. So Harley gave it to him because he didn't have the Harley that was his was in my name.
And so this guy on top of, you know, this pisses me off worse than the cheating with, like, the 20 plus women, because he purposely went and got a new Harley.
Planning to leave me for you. Which, fine. But, like, left me with knowing he was going to leave me with a $750 a month payment for a bike that was in my name.
And that's what pisses me off. I'm like, so you knew you were cheating on me? You knew you were gonna leave me? Hoping to, like, essentially move straight in with you and live his best life. In his mind, it's still really funny
[00:03:31] Speaker B: because I wouldn't even let him stay the night.
[00:03:32] Speaker A: It's wild.
But the fact that he was like, I'm gonna buy this bike knowing that the woman who's taken care of me for four years and that I've. That loves me has been bought me two bikes, and I'm going to leave her with it. I'm going to leave her with that debt.
And so that's why he lied. Well, Harley's out looking for the bike now.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: That's hilarious.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: Because he's apparently not making payments, so they want to repo it, and they called his family looking for him.
[00:03:59] Speaker B: That is hilarious.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: And his family's like, we don't talk to him, saying, yeah, well. And he's like, he got the. What's crazy is because he got the motorcycle in October and then in November, he got the truck. Right, because you were there when he got the truck.
And then that got repoed by, like, March of 2025. So now the bike's also like, this guy's just like, I don't know what he's doing with his money because he's not paying me and he's not paying his child support, so. And he's obviously not paying his bike payment.
I don't know where this guy's money is going. He's supposedly not even in the States.
Like, he's he's supposedly not even in this state. State anymore. And supposedly whoever he works for right now is paying for him to stay in a hotel. So I'm like, you can't even afford your bike payment. Like, that's his baby. So the fact that he's letting his bike go, I'm like, well. Or what happened is he got another new bike somehow, and it's a newer. Because Parley keeps putting out new bikes, and in his mind, he always has to have the newest and the next best thing. So his response is, I just won't pay for that one anymore. And no one stops him.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: So, I mean, that could be it.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: So that was wild to find out. Like, I knew. We never knew officially whose bike it was because he was telling other people it was.
It was his. All the women he was dating, he was saying it was his. He was telling his daughter and me that it was Jesse's.
And so now we know it was his. And he literally was planning to stick me with a 750amonth bike payment. After everything I did from him for him and everything else, on top of the cheating, that, to me, is even worse.
And I'm like, now I'm like, do you really think I'm not gonna come after you for the money that you owe me? Like, knowing that you did this on purpose? I can take this to court and be like, he bought a bike while we were married with funds that he hid because where was that money? It wasn't in our joint bank account.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: Right.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: And purposely got a bike with the intention of leaving me with debt for the other bike.
Awful.
Dick. You're an awful human being. So just a reminder where that is.
[00:06:09] Speaker B: It's already things we know, though.
[00:06:11] Speaker A: Yeah. It's crazy, though. Like, two years, a year and a half later, I'm vindicated because I was like, he hid money. And this whole time he's been like, I didn't hide any money. And now I'm like, yeah, the. You did, because where did you get that money?
[00:06:20] Speaker B: I don't believe in anything that comes out of his mouth.
[00:06:22] Speaker A: No, no, you can't.
But I'm just, like, in complete. Like, not shocked, but just like, oh, look, I was right. So, ladies, believe your gut, because it's always true. Like, yep, that's the case.
But you have a funny story because you were just swiping for entertainment purposes. And what happened?
[00:06:42] Speaker B: As y' all know, I like to look for content on the dating apps. So I had told Lauren earlier about something I had seen on the as are we dating the same guy page.
And well, as I'm swiping, I was just looking for a couple cool stories to talk about and well, I was like, hey Lauren, before we start filming, let me show you what I was talking about on the are we dating the same page. Well, as I went to go pull that up, the very first one that popped up was a photo of the guy had just seen on the Facebook dating page. And I was like, oh, well, here he is. In case anybody's wondering. Don't worry, he's still on there.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: Exhibit A. Man who is currently taken is on Facebook dating still currently.
Yeah, it's. That's crazy. And I said we see it all the time. And how many, how many comments does he have?
[00:07:37] Speaker B: 33.
[00:07:37] Speaker A: 33. He's a new dick.
It's the new dick.
[00:07:40] Speaker B: 30.
[00:07:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess he's just a, a repeat offender. He tends to have a. Is he one of the ones that has a long standing girlfriend? That means funny.
A long standing girlfriend.
And then he still like dates people. Like it's crazy because the amount of people on there that are like, oh, he's with somebody. Or even when sometimes the wife comments and like, oh, he's mine. I'm like, you still. Do you still want him, right?
[00:08:10] Speaker B: Like, because I wouldn't like knowing that
[00:08:11] Speaker A: he's dating all these women. Like, it's one thing when you're like, oh, I have kids with them and I and all this, but like if you know that your husband is actively on these sites and he's getting posted in this thing and then you're on there like defending him, that's a choice.
[00:08:27] Speaker B: This guy has been posted a lot on here too. I recognize him because of the big rib he's eating. Oh yeah, I've seen him several times.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: That's pretty funny.
Yeah, there's a lot that have been like, replay. Oh, he, that one I just saw him on whenever I was in Memphis scrolling. He popped up, which is weird.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: So he's gone a pretty good distance.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: Yeah, so he's, he's, he's been on there. So.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Yeah, Somebody said he's probably slept with all the strippers in the area.
[00:08:58] Speaker A: Why? Oh,
[00:09:01] Speaker B: and his other good friends are only fan girls. He cycles through girls throughout the week, only wants you to go to his house. Also, he records you without knowing.
[00:09:12] Speaker A: Ew. Oh well, that's creepy.
[00:09:15] Speaker B: That's a whole problem.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: So that was somebody who was with him who probably posted him then.
So he must have been cheating on her with like Strippers and stuff. And only fans. And a lot of guys out there still think that only fans is not cheating.
And that's wild to me.
[00:09:30] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:09:30] Speaker A: You're, like, lusting over another woman.
That is cheating, like, to like it, because it's one thing when it's like, oh, Margot Robbie. Like, yeah, Margot Robbie's hot.
Everyone knows that. Including women. Like, it's Margot Robbie. Okay, but, like, a random girl who is a, like, not a famous person as far as, like, movies and stuff, that's, like, it's porn. Like, at that point, like, that is just a porn addiction.
And there's a lot of debates, like, around that and porn and, like, men and their, like, issues in bed and everything else. Um, it's not a healthy addiction, guys, so you should probably just step away from that.
[00:10:14] Speaker B: Right?
[00:10:16] Speaker A: But, yeah, I personally, like, I don't want my significant other paying other women on OnlyFans.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: No, that money's going to me.
[00:10:23] Speaker A: Hey, there's our mascot.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Hey, Big, big, big.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: He was like, oh, God, they're talking.
[00:10:30] Speaker B: He's like, they noticed.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: They saw me run.
One day, he will be comfortable enough that he'll, like, sit right behind us when we record. Maybe that's the goal.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: As I see, he scratched my eye, so there's that.
[00:10:44] Speaker A: He loves you. They're love scratches, I promise.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: Oh, okay. It felt like love this morning.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: That's what. That's what we tell ourselves about men, too. It's just love. It's not.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: I was like, why do I. I always choose the abusive ones now.
[00:10:59] Speaker A: Well, bless it.
So you don't know about this story that I have for us today. Oh, so this story spicy? No, it's. Well, it's crazy is what it is. So death.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: Death.
[00:11:12] Speaker A: Yeah, we're going to talk about death. What?
Which, if you know Lauren, it's one of her favorite things to talk about.
But so, long story short, I met this woman in Memphis, and she was like, I'm on this podcast. And I was like, oh, crazy. I have a podcast. And I was like, tell me about your story. And she sent it to me. Turns out her story is an unsolved mystery.
[00:11:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Like life, lifetime, unsolved mystery.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: Oh, I love Unsolved Mysteries.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: Yes. So it's, like, part of Unsolved Mysteries. And so I listened to the episode and, like, summarized it, and so I'll talk about it.
But crazy that she was just like, yeah, murder. And I was like, murder.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: Can I watch this episode? Like, is it.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: I listen to it on a pod. It's on a podcast. It's on the Unsolved Mysteries podcast.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: Wait, there's a podcast? Unsolved Mysteries. Game over. I know what we're doing today.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So there's a podcast, but I did, I did want to watch it. So I'm wondering if there is like a link to their YouTube. So we'll have to. We'll have to.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: Well, I think for a while they were on. I think it was Hulu they're on. Yeah, but I don't, I hadn't checked to see.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll have to look because with them being a podcast, I wonder if they're on YouTube.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: My little 9 year old self used to look forward to every week watching Unsolved Mysteries.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: And this is why we all love true crime and murder.
So her episode was called where's the Money?
And so essentially this took place in 2011. So it's, it's been a minute, but it's still unsolved. So however many years later we are now we're, we're still there.
A car was found submerged in a lake that was registered to millionaire Charles.
And then he was found floating dead next to the car.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:13:03] Speaker A: So it turns out that he was her father.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:13:07] Speaker A: So the girl that I met, it's her dad.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: Well, that's terrible.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: Yes.
So.
But he was a multi millionaire who worked hard and played harder.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: Play harder how?
[00:13:20] Speaker A: Women.
Oh, gambling, all the things. So this all took place in Hot Springs, Arkansas. So there's a big lake there and that's where the car was found and hit body was found.
What was crazy was like just listening to her tell this story because it's like, you know, it's weird because it's her father. So she's probably like, I miss my dad. But also my dad made really bad choices. So it's kind of like a weird.
[00:13:49] Speaker B: I mean, it's understandable because like we can love somebody and have to love them through all their problems. So like, I get it.
[00:13:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
So he went to Hot Springs, Arkansas after having a, after splitting up from his fiance.
Her name is Kelly. And mind you, him and Kelly had not been together very long. So go in with that. He, he went, he went there.
It was a Wednesday night and he showed up with two young women and they were seen partying for two days just like out in the like nightlife. And so Hot Springs, Arkansas has kind of an underbelly if nobody really knows about it. So one, I love Hot Springs. It's beautiful. There's hot baths there. Like the original. Yes, absolutely. Okay.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: Road trip.
[00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's only like a seven hour drive. It's.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: What if we did that for my birthday weekend? Okay, we'll look into it.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: Yeah, sounds good.
But like, the hot springs are great.
It's a really cute area. But it has an underbelly because this is where like Al Capone and the mobsters would like, have a lot of their meetings and would like get together. Yeah. So it has like this huge underbelly for like mobsters.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: You know, I like a good mobster.
[00:15:01] Speaker A: And like some of the original like bars and stuff that he met at are still there and everything, so. And then side note, is also the birthplace of Bill Clinton, which is random.
So they have a sign for that. And I'm like.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: But I didn't inhale.
[00:15:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I'm like, you should put the Al Capone up here.
But. So they were living in Mississippi at the time. And then he basically went to Arkansas to party, which is hilarious if you think about it. Like instead of Vegas, like, he drove up to Arkansas.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: Super weird, because I really thought that all that Arkansas had was a Walmart and duck hunting. Like that was it.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
Also mobsters, apparently.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: Mobsters, I didn't know.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: And diamonds. You can, you can dig for diamonds in Arkansas.
[00:15:44] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't know that either. I literally thought it was just duck hunting in Walmart's home office.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: You and probably half the people who listen to this.
So, yeah, so they were out like partying and, and going crazy. And his daughter believes at this time he was in a manic episode. So he had had like a, a stroke or something at one point in time. Some kind of like, health like issue. And after that he had like a lot of manic episodes that would like randomly come up.
So she thinks he was doing that because in those manic episodes he loved to flash his money to the point that he bought two brand new cars within two days.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:16:24] Speaker A: Like, including the one that was found in the lake. He had just bought that car the day before.
[00:16:29] Speaker B: Oh, that's terrible. Like, imagine like you're picking out your car and you're like, yep, that's the one I'm gonna die in.
[00:16:34] Speaker A: Yeah. So.
So that was pretty crazy. Like, who has them? It was like, it was a, it was a Cadillac too. So like back in 2011, like, it wasn't a cheap car and the police believe, at. Well believed and still like aren't really looking into it that he drove his car into the lake while drunk.
[00:16:56] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: However, his Daughter never believed that because there was no, like foul playmarks at all. Meaning, like, also including what you would get from like a wreck.
[00:17:08] Speaker B: Right. There was no. It was like his body was put there after.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: Correct. And there was, There was water in his lungs. So people were like, oh, he just drowned. But there was no. He. He was a bigger dude. So like, they were like, how did he float out of the car?
[00:17:24] Speaker B: Good question.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: And then like, there was no, like, let me break the window. And then you have like any kind of damage of any kind on his person. So they were like, that's weird. He also. And he could swim.
So if he was conscious, he would have just swam. Right? He could have got out and swam.
They did a test on him to see if he had alcohol in his system, and he did not.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: Okay, well, how are you direct drinking, driving, and right into a pond if you don't even have any alcohol in your system?
[00:17:56] Speaker A: Right. So then at that point, the cops are like suicide.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: I don't know if I'm a multi millionaire. I'm probably not killing myself.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: That's what. That's another thing she was saying. She was just like, so at least not here.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: I might, you know. And when is a better location?
[00:18:10] Speaker A: When he was found, he had $25,000 in a boot, in one of his boots. He had 5,000 in rubber bands in his back pocket. And then he also had three guns on him. So if he was being attacked, why wouldn't he views the guns? Because he always talked about, like, how he carried all his money and he was flashy, so he always had a weapon on him to be able to protect himself.
And then also, if this was solely about money or like a robbery, why wouldn't they have taken the money? The money. Maybe they didn't know about the 25k in the boot, but at 5k in the back pocket, surely you saw that lump. Like, that's a big lump.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: Why couldn't he have been my dad?
[00:18:50] Speaker A: Right. He was also found without his glasses and he is blind as a bat. According to his daughter, his glasses were found in the hotel room. So why would.
[00:18:58] Speaker B: How would he drive his car?
[00:19:00] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:19:00] Speaker B: I mean.
[00:19:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Or why would he.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: Why would he.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: If he wasn't drunk and he couldn't see, why would he drive his car into the lake?
So, and the only thing missing was his watch, his Rolex, but not all that cash.
So they were like suspicious. Like, it almost looked like somebody tried to like, just take one thing to
[00:19:25] Speaker B: be like he was robbed, but didn't bother to check his back pockets or his boot.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
And so then.
[00:19:33] Speaker B: So do we think it's fiance?
[00:19:36] Speaker A: Well, that's what she's. That's what we kind of get to. So the daughter believes the car was pushed in. And, like, they were pushed in separately because he was like, too big to float out.
So one of the last people to see him alive was this massage therapist who the two girls he was with ordered to the room at 2am she said that the girls offered her drugs.
And she said, like, no, she didn't want any. She was good. They offered her a beer and she took it. And then she started feeling sick. So she thinks they put like, Rohypnol,
[00:20:11] Speaker B: like the date rape, to make her forget.
[00:20:13] Speaker A: Right. And then they said that the girls were just handing her things, like a remote, a book, like. Like the Bible, like, things around the room.
Almost like to get her fingerprints on the room.
[00:20:25] Speaker B: That's really strange.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's what the massage therapist, like, told the cops. And again, the cops didn't really look into this. So that's crazy to me.
So that was super weird.
But then part of the problem was. So apparently that night the massage therapist said that he. That her dad said, I don't feel good. I don't want a massage anymore. And then went and laid down.
And that was the last time the massage therapist saw him because she said that she started not feeling good. And so she was like, I'm gonna leave. And the girls, like, kicked her out.
And that was the last time he was seen alive.
He.
They. The family.
She said one of her biggest regrets was that the family ended up cremating him. So they couldn't do a test to see if there was Rohypnol in his system because the test that they ran for the autopsy didn't test for that. It was a separate test. So there's a chance that the girls had drugged him and he didn't. Like. So he wasn't conscious. And then if they would have put him in the water, he would have like, swallowed the water and drown.
[00:21:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: So.
But no one ever got the video footage from the hotel, from the streets, nothing. Because the cops.
Something about the sheriff that the one of the deputies that was working or. It's a very small town, so, like, whoever was working was on vacation for like two months.
And the. Everybody else had other things going on. So, like, they never.
[00:21:55] Speaker B: Nobody could stop.
[00:21:56] Speaker A: And nobody got a subpoena. Nobody got a subpoena.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: You know what? Scratch that. We don't need to Go there.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Nobody got the subpoena for the.
Like, for the. For the video cam footage or for the video footage. So then, of course, after a while, it gets recorded over.
[00:22:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:13] Speaker A: So that's weird. It's a failure on law enforcement for sure. Like, this definitely could have been figured
[00:22:20] Speaker B: out because I'm sure, like, now we don't even know who the two girls were.
[00:22:27] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. I think they know who they are, but there was nothing that they could.
[00:22:31] Speaker B: Oh, there was nothing to support it,
[00:22:33] Speaker A: to arrest them for because there was no video of them, like, dragging him to the lake or anything.
No one saw him for 36 hours, and no one reported him missing, including the two girls who were partying with him.
[00:22:46] Speaker B: Weird.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: However, the girls were watching from the balcony as her dad was pulled from the lake.
[00:22:52] Speaker B: So the lake was right next.
[00:22:53] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:22:54] Speaker B: So they didn't have to drag him far. Right.
[00:22:58] Speaker A: And they sat there and watched.
Yes. And so they didn't get the warrant for the video.
The girls left and brought the stuff back to his daughter because the cops let them go and said, pack up the room and take all his stuff back to his kids. His kids would probably want it.
So that right then and there, all, like, evidence is tainted.
[00:23:20] Speaker B: They didn't even need the lady's fingerprints.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: No. And so. And she said that when she met the girls. So she actually met the girls to get his stuff. And they had a stun gun in their car, like, in the back with it. And like, she was like, why do these girls have a stun gun? Like, I mean, girls protect themselves. But also, like, you're out partying with a millionaire all weekend. Like, why do you have a stun gun?
[00:23:40] Speaker B: Right.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: Well, then they found out because obviously, like, he was missing in the. The family didn't know. Like, they just. They didn't have a clue. He was. He was missing because he was out on a bender, having fun, and the people that were with him didn't report him. Well, while he was missing, his home was broken into and burglarized. Like, tables flipped, mattresses flipped, and he kept a lot of his money under the mattress, and it was all gone.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: So, like, someone who knew. And then there was a secret compartment in the nightstand, and the stuff was out of it, too. So it had to have been someone who knew. Like.
[00:24:15] Speaker B: Like the fiance.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: Yes. Interesting. Right?
[00:24:19] Speaker B: Suspicious.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: Suspicious.
So before, on the way to Hot Springs, when he bought the. The Cadillac, he was hanging out with the car salesman and the two girls.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: Never trust a car salesman.
[00:24:36] Speaker A: Right. He.
So the car salesman Is the one who reported him missing after the 36 hours.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: Okay, maybe that car salesman you can kind of trust.
[00:24:46] Speaker A: Maybe. But then why, why was he the one to report, to report it? And he was super involved.
Like he was. She said he was super involved for a guy who just sold him a car.
And she was like. And he was acting really suspicious too. And like he knew the two girls.
[00:25:01] Speaker B: Oh, so they were all in it together with the fiance.
[00:25:04] Speaker A: Right. But again, there was no evidence for the, for the car dealer. So she was like, okay.
So the daughter was like, obviously wondered if the fiance, the ex fiance, was involved because she was only a year older than his daughter.
She, she obviously thinks that she was using her dad for money.
[00:25:27] Speaker B: Oh yeah. 100.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: She became the beneficiary of $1 million policy.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: So she took all the money.
[00:25:36] Speaker A: So they ended up settling outside of court because the wrong. The paper. There was something wrong with like the fax, the fax machine and like the way the paper was transferred so they were able to contest it. So they settled. So she did get something, but she didn't get the full million.
[00:25:49] Speaker B: Well, good.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: But that's crazy because then that his ex fiance was married to someone new two weeks after he died.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sure.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: And then of course, she divorced that guy not long after. And so the daughter went to him and was like, hey, can you like talk to me about anything? And he was like, no, she's crazy. I don't want to be involved.
So.
And she has a pattern for marrying rich men.
[00:26:14] Speaker B: Imagine that.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: So something's obviously weird there.
She kept saying she didn't want to be pulled into it. Whenever, like the cops were like, can we ask you questions and stuff. She's like, I don't have anything to do this. I don't want to be pulled into it. But in 2017, out of nowhere, she contacted the daughter because the daughter put a twenty five thousand dollar reward for information and she wanted the reward money. Of course she did, because she said she knew who killed her dad and that she was there when her dad died.
So then the daughter calls the cops and says, hey, this is what I've been told.
And the cops still didn't do anything with that information.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: So she's probably paying the cops or doing something with them. She's LinkedIn.
[00:26:59] Speaker A: Either that or they just did such a bad job the first time and they don't want to deal with like having to admit their wrongs and go back at it.
But the story basically ends like that. They, the two there were two girls.
There was a car salesman. There's the ex fiance.
His house was broken into, money was gone. There was a million dollar life insurance policy.
There was potentially Rohypnol in his system because the massage therapist had it in her system.
And he didn't feel good and fell and went to bed when the massage therapist was there. And then she also left.
He didn't have his glasses on. He was too big to fit in the car and to drive, so therefore he wouldn't have been able to float out of the car.
So because the part, the way the parking lot is, you could easily just push a car into the lake. So she said that. So to me, again, it's completely unsolved. But one would venture, one would surmise that maybe I would be interested to know if the ex fiance knows it's those two girls.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: Oh, a hundred percent.
[00:28:05] Speaker A: So it's so, you know, love can kill. That's the moral of this story.
Unsolved Mysteries. Murder can kill. As we know. I mean, we see it all the time, right? Like a lot of the, A lot of the true crimes. It was just crazy because I actually know her to like, learn this story and the fact that it's still unsolved. And I feel like it should not be like these glaring truce, like things like all this evidence. And I'm like, how is this not solved?
[00:28:33] Speaker B: Right?
[00:28:33] Speaker A: And it's 100 because they let them pack up the hotel. So there was no evidence and no chain of evidence. And then they never got a warrant for the videos, for any video footage.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: I like, they really dropped the ball on all of it.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I was just like, oh, this does not look good for that sheriff's department at all.
And when she called a bunch of different, like, agencies, but then like she said, she called like the FBI and stuff, but they don't have, they didn't have jurisdiction, which is true.
[00:29:02] Speaker B: So.
[00:29:03] Speaker A: So, you know, then you're running into that issue. So the one that did have jurisdiction didn't do anything.
[00:29:07] Speaker B: They just dropped the ball and they didn't care.
[00:29:09] Speaker A: They basically were like, oh, another millionaire's dead. Oh, well, like, you know, so what's
[00:29:14] Speaker B: like, is the crime rate high there?
[00:29:16] Speaker A: I mean, Arkansas doesn't have a great crime rate, but little rocks higher than hot springs. Hot Springs is really small. Um, like I said, I mean, they had like the mobster era and stuff. And I'm sure it has like a very seedy under underbelly for that. But it's not as bad as like Memphis or Little Rock. Yeah, that's a wild story. Like one that we haven't really dealt with. But I thought it was crazy enough because it still deals with toxic love because, you know, obviously he, he has his issues, too, because he breaks up with his fiance, he goes and parties with two young girls, and then. But then she has her issues because I, I mean, she probably had something to do with his death. But on top of that, she, you know, got remarried within, what, two weeks. Like, that's crazy. Like, you know, choices, wild choices.
So, yeah, so that, that's our story for today, guys.
You know, we love some true crime around here. So if you have any other crazy true crime stories, any listeners that involve love and toxic relationships, go ahead and send them our way because they're. They're very interesting to us.
So, yeah, thanks, guys. All right, guys, we'll see you next week.
[00:30:25] Speaker B: Have a good one.
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